Re-Rebuttal

For background read part 1 and part 2 of this discussion.

In a former letter I exposed the action of a board of trustees of a certain church. That letter was answered, or rather an attempt was made to answer it, by one of the trustees. Now I owe it to the public, to myself, and to the editor, as a local correspondent of the Free Trader, to say a final word in regard to this matter. The parties to whom I owe my information are prominent and responsible men in the town. Among them I may mention Supervisor Beach, Messrs. Henderson, Brower, Hess, Debolt and others. If Wm. A. Greenlees desires satisfaction, let him go to these men, for from them I obtained my facts and information. They stand willing, every one, to substantiate everything said on this subject. That the public may not be deceived about the affair, these parties have sent me for publication the following statements:

First. – We are prepared to prove by prominent members and trustees of the church, and by the pastor in charge at the time the church was built, who circulated the petition for aid in its erection, that it was especially understood that it was to be used by other denominations when not conflicting with M. E. appointments, and two trustees were appointed to represent the outside interests. By this means some nineteen hundred dollars were raised outside of its members, and members gave on the above condition. The word “ORthoDOX” was not made use of at the time.

Second. – Wm. A. Greenlees, as trustee, also started out with a subscription paper stating that none but Methodists should use the house. But we have not heard that he succeeded in raising a dollar on those terms. And his own subscription and labor for it do not prove him to be so much more magnanimous than his neighbors, against whom he would bar its doors.

Third. – The present acting trustees seem to be fifty years behind the times in regard to religious liberty, as the following communication from one of them would show:
Serena, March 29, ’79
A. S. Henderson – Sir: I have Been wanting to see you for some time, But have not had time. So I’ll write you and aske you if you heled out the ida thet any and all denomenations could preach in the new M. E. Church when the subscription paper was precented, or did you say ORthoDOX” Now Mr. Henderson if the Unaverseles come under the head of ORthoDOX, then I am with you and will not hesetate to say the church shal be had, but if not you have no right to make the demand you have for I can tell you thet it was expresley understood that the church could be had when not used and it was all so understood it should be to some ORthoDOX denomenations. If I am right you went to far in saying we got money under fals pretence.
plese Answer this
yours Respectfully
Peter Jacobs.

(Mr. Henderson enclosed the above letter in this statement, sent us by the parties above mentioned, and we have it in our possession at the present time.) The statement continues: “If Wm. A. Greenlees had heeded the advice of King Solomon, which he quoted, we think he would never have written his article of April 10, and we would recommend his perusal of other quotations from the same source: “The eyes of the Lord preserve knowledge, and He overthroweth the words of the transgressor.” “Be not a witness against they neighbor without cause; and deceive not with thy lips.”

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So there!


  1. Ottawa Free Trader, May 3, 1879, p. 2, cols. 2-3

A Rebuttal

This rebuttal is in response to this letter.

DAYTON, April 10. – In last weeks’ Free Trader I noticed a communication from Dayton signed “O. C.” purporting to give an explanation of a little difficulty which occurred at the church in West Serena. His informant has either stated a malicious falsehood or has undertaken to explain a matter without understanding the facts of the case.

In the first place, there is no such thing as a “union church” in West Serena, neither has any one ever contributed money to erect one, nor has any member of a Universalist church contributed money to build a church in West Serena to my knowledge. If there has, will your correspondent please give the names. It is true that the people generally contributed liberally to build a church, but it was certainly with an understanding that it was to be a Methodist church and there was no chance for deception with any one who read the subscription paper, nor were the men who signed the preamble and resolution demanding the use of the house for Mrs. Gibb deceived in the least, as their own resolution shows. Furthermore, their own lady minister requested them not to apply for the use of the church and announced her appointment for that day at the new schoolhouse in Dist. No. 1.

Secondly, our minister has not, on any public occasion, said one word against Mrs. Gibb to my knowledge. What was said publicly was by the presiding elder.

Thirdly, there has no christian denomination been refused the use of the house, nor will there be if it does not conflict with regular appointments. Fourthly, as regards these “conscientious swindlers” who deceived their neighbors when money was wanted to build a church, I may state that Mr. Hall was not a member of the board at the time the church was built; therefore no blame can attach to him. As regards the other two, we challenge your correspondent or any one to show that we used deception to raise money to build the church or made one promise that has not been faithfully kept. We do not deny that the promise was made that the church should be free to other orthodox denominations when not conflicting with the M. E. appointments and this promise will be kept. Had your correspondent read what wise men had said in sacred writ instead of Shakespeare, he would not have troubled you to publish such a slanderous article, nor would he have troubled those of your readers who love truth rather than slander, for Solomon says, “Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but they that deal truly are his delight.”
WM. A. GREENLEES.1

It’s not over yet – see next week for the final installment.


  1. Ottawa Free Trader, April 12, 1879, p. 8, col. 2

The Principles of Christianity and an Explanation

A case of – what shall we call it – stubborn selfishness (?) occurred last Sabbath not far from this place. A church was solicited by parties who had paid liberally towards its erection, as a Union church, for preaching in it by our lady minister, Mrs. Gibb. The idea was hooted at and members of the congregation who were in favor of it were not allowed to speak. Certainly there could have been no gallantry among the gentlemen of the congregation or they would not have so violently opposed the lady’s speaking. Query: Is their action based on the principles of Christianity.1

As it happened, that question was answered soon after:

In our last letter (of March 19) we raised the Query, “Is their action based on the principles of Christianity?” We now have an answer, but that the reader may better understand the whole matter we will endeavor to explain:

When the “Union” church was erected at West Serena, the Universalists and people of no church, contributed liberally with the expressed promise that when not in use by the Methodist Episcopal people, the church should be free to any other Christian denomination or people, (the Mormons, I believe, excepted.) Up to this date no denomination but the M. E. has had any control or use of the house.

The Universalist denomination have been holding meetings at the school-house in Wedron during the past winter, but the United Brethren of that place wishing to hold a quarterly meeting at the regular appointment, Rev. Mrs. Gibb, pastor of the Universalist church at Sheridan, and congregations at Wedron and Dayton, very properly, in the true Christian spirit, gave way to accommodate them. It then became necessary to find another place to hold their meetings, and it was suggested that the West Serena church would be the place provided it could be obtained for a single service. Messrs. Debolt and Henderson made the request, but were flatly denied by the minister and people generally and the minister took occasion to use very harsh and unbecoming language toward Rev. Mrs. Gibb.

Messrs. Brower, Hess and others having contributed very liberally to the building, with the above named stipulation as to the use of the same, after being refused applied in writing to the Trustees for a compliance with the agreement or a return of the money which they had contributed under the agreement.

To this the Trustees, Messrs. Peter Jacobs, James Hall and Wm. A. Greenlees, replied over their own signatures: “We, as Trustees of the Methodist Episcopal church of West Serena, feel that we cannot conscientiously comply with your request.”

So it is altogether a matter of conscience. A case of official conscience! These men of very tender conscience found no difficulty in deceiving their neighbors when money was wanted for the church, but find this meddler conscience, which Shakespeare says “makes cowards of us all,” an impediment to common honesty when there is an opportunity to redeem a promise.

No their action is not based on Christianity, but is of that character of pious fraud that is giving strength to infidelity by exhibiting the hypocrisy of so much that professes to be so pure and Christlike. No use for skeptics to invite Ingersoll to West Serena. These trustees and their minister will drive men further from the cause they so luminously misrepresent, than Bob can persuade them.2

As you might expect, this response did not go unnoticed. Tune in next week for the next installment.


  1. Ottawa Free Trader, March 29, 1879, p. 2, col. 4
  2. Ottawa Free Trader, April 5, 1879, p. 4, col. 6

Old Settlers Reunion – Part 2

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continuing the Hon. P. A. Armstrong’s remarks to the 1877 La Salle County Old Settlers Reunion:

To have our humble cabin selected as the place to hold divine services was considered a special favor, and the itinerant preacher (for that is the name by which they were hailed) was always a welcome guest to our firesides. Indeed we used to count the days and look forward to the time when the preacher was to come, and had our favorite club in a convenient place to slaughter a chicken for his dinner or supper whenever he came. We were happy in the anticipation of wheat bread and chicken upon his arrival. There was, however, a rumor current in those days that the chickens began to squeal as the preacher came in sight. Be this as it may, I am now under the solemn conviction that the preachers of those days were as fatal to the barnyard fowls as the chicken cholera of the present time, and yet they were a very devout and good kind of men. In many instances they rode on horseback hundreds of miles to fulfill their engagement, and not infrequently sacrificed their lives to their devotion to duty.

The pioneer preacher of all this section of the country was Rev. Jesse Walker, the uncle of David Walker, Esq., of Ottawa. William Royal, now on duty in Oregon, and Stephen Beggs, of Plainfield, Ills., were our pioneer circuit riders. They were Methodists. Elder John Sinclair, than whom God never made a better man or purer Christian, was also among the first and was the first presiding Elder.

These men worked through sunshine and storm, never faltering, never wearying in well-doing. They labored without money and without price, taking no heed of what they should eat or wherewithal they should be clothed. Elijah-like, trusting in God to be fed by the young Ravens, their labors were more than crowned with success.

Churches were built, congregations formed and sabbath schools established all over the country.

—————– to be continued ———————


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